Holley, Inc Kills Weiand

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Holley, Inc Kills Weiand

Postby Steve Pilant » Sat Jul 10, 1999 7:23 pm

I'd heard a while back that Holley had acquired Weiand, but was a bit surpirsed that Holley has kept the weiand.com web address going with only Holley items. If one goes to the weiand.com web page, one can see some bit of BS by the Holley CEO Jeff King on how they aren't doing the typical megamerger, but their actions dictate otherwise. If Holley wants to acquite Weiand, this is perfectly legal, but why even have a weiand.com website if there are no Weiand products available and each time one clicks on something, a part with "Holley" stamped in it pops up? I even tried to use their e-mail feature to comment, but Holleys "support" e-mail address at the Weiand site is basically a file 13 shit can for all comments. Obviously, Weiand is dead now that Holley has acquired it and Holley uses the weiand.com address to promote their own logo'd products. They could have pleased many nostalgia fans by keeping the Weiand marque going with Weiand stamped products, but their ego precludes it. Here is the letter I sent them after surfing the so called "Weiand" site.

Postmaster@holley.com wrote:

>

> Your message

>

> Subject: Marque Loyalty - Holley Kills Weiand???

>

> was not delivered to:

>

> support@holley.com

>

> because:

>

> User support (support@holley.com) not listed in public Name & Address Book

>

> ---------------------------------------------------------------

> Reporting-MTA: dns;avenger.holley.com

>

> Final-Recipient: rfc822;support@holley.com

> Action: failed

> Status: 5.1.1

> Diagnostic-Code: X-Notes; User support (support@holley.com) not listed in public Name & Address Book

>

> ---------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Subject: Marque Loyalty - Holley Kills Weiand???

> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 17:13:50 +0800

> From: Steve Pilant

> To: support@holley.com

>

> Holley,

> I had a few comments to share...

>

> First, I love your carbs and have used them for years. Wouldn't want

> to change anything there. I do note some "indigestion" with your

> acquisition of Weiand though...

>

> I've had built a Mad Max Interceptor replica and was looking for some items

> specific to the accuracy of the car - namely some Weiand valve covers

> and a nostalgia 6-71 blower cover. When I went to weiand.com, I saw the

> Holley logo. I'd heard earlier that Holley had acquired Weiand, so was

> not surprised.

>

> What DID Bother me though was that when I went to find "Weiand" valve

> covers as well as other items, they all have the HOLLEY logo on them.

> In this acquisition of Weiand, it appears that you guys are intent on

> blasting the Weiand logo off of any new product on the face of the

> Earth. Some of us nostalgia guys would like to see some Weiand logo

> items, including reproductions of older items - valve covers etc.

>

> If Holley is only going to have Holley stamped/logo'd items, then what

> exactly is the point of even having a weiand.com website? What is this

> doublespeak of reversing the trend of megamergers by Jeff King? Looks

> like the typical megamerger stamp out the weaker of the two's identity

> crap I see everywhere else in corporate mergers to me. Weiand has a

> legacy you guys could have absorbed into your own legacy, but are

> eliminating instead.

>

> Give us Weiand stamped and logo'd products, or don't have a Weiand site

> at all and admit the basic intent was to take them over and obliterate

> them. In the meanwhile, I'll get my parts online or from Hemmings since

> you've interred the Weiand marque.

>

> Regards,

>

> Steve Pilant
Gotta hand it to ya treasure - the last of the V8 interceptors. Woulda been a shame to blow it up...
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Would you mind posting their response here when/if it comes. Thanks n/m

Postby nomoneynocar » Sat Jul 10, 1999 7:43 pm

In Reply to: Holley, Inc Kills Weiand posted by Steve Pilant on July 11, 1999 at 03:23:55:


: I'd heard a while back that Holley had acquired Weiand, but was a bit surpirsed that Holley has kept the weiand.com web address going with only Holley items. If one goes to the weiand.com web page, one can see some bit of BS by the Holley CEO Jeff King on how they aren't doing the typical megamerger, but their actions dictate otherwise. If Holley wants to acquite Weiand, this is perfectly legal, but why even have a weiand.com website if there are no Weiand products available and each time one clicks on something, a part with "Holley" stamped in it pops up? I even tried to use their e-mail feature to comment, but Holleys "support" e-mail address at the Weiand site is basically a file 13 shit can for all comments. Obviously, Weiand is dead now that Holley has acquired it and Holley uses the weiand.com address to promote their own logo'd products. They could have pleased many nostalgia fans by keeping the Weiand marque going with Weiand stamped products, but their ego precludes it. Here is the letter I sent them after surfing the so called "Weiand" site.

: Postmaster@holley.com wrote:

: >

: > Your message

: >

: > Subject: Marque Loyalty - Holley Kills Weiand???

: >

: > was not delivered to:

: >

: > support@holley.com

: >

: > because:

: >

: > User support (support@holley.com) not listed in public Name & Address Book

: >

: > ---------------------------------------------------------------

: > Reporting-MTA: dns;avenger.holley.com

: >

: > Final-Recipient: rfc822;support@holley.com

: > Action: failed

: > Status: 5.1.1

: > Diagnostic-Code: X-Notes; User support (support@holley.com) not listed in public Name & Address Book

: >

: > ---------------------------------------------------------------

: >

: > Subject: Marque Loyalty - Holley Kills Weiand???

: > Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 17:13:50 +0800

: > From: Steve Pilant

: > To: support@holley.com

: >

: > Holley,

: > I had a few comments to share...

: >

: > First, I love your carbs and have used them for years. Wouldn't want

: > to change anything there. I do note some "indigestion" with your

: > acquisition of Weiand though...

: >

: > I've had built a Mad Max Interceptor replica and was looking for some items

: > specific to the accuracy of the car - namely some Weiand valve covers

: > and a nostalgia 6-71 blower cover. When I went to weiand.com, I saw the

: > Holley logo. I'd heard earlier that Holley had acquired Weiand, so was

: > not surprised.

: >

: > What DID Bother me though was that when I went to find "Weiand" valve

: > covers as well as other items, they all have the HOLLEY logo on them.

: > In this acquisition of Weiand, it appears that you guys are intent on

: > blasting the Weiand logo off of any new product on the face of the

: > Earth. Some of us nostalgia guys would like to see some Weiand logo

: > items, including reproductions of older items - valve covers etc.

: >

: > If Holley is only going to have Holley stamped/logo'd items, then what

: > exactly is the point of even having a weiand.com website? What is this

: > doublespeak of reversing the trend of megamergers by Jeff King? Looks

: > like the typical megamerger stamp out the weaker of the two's identity

: > crap I see everywhere else in corporate mergers to me. Weiand has a

: > legacy you guys could have absorbed into your own legacy, but are

: > eliminating instead.

: >

: > Give us Weiand stamped and logo'd products, or don't have a Weiand site

: > at all and admit the basic intent was to take them over and obliterate

: > them. In the meanwhile, I'll get my parts online or from Hemmings since

: > you've interred the Weiand marque.

: >

: > Regards,

: >

: > Steve Pilant
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Re: Would you mind posting their response here when/if it comes. Thanks n/m

Postby Steve Pilant » Sat Jul 10, 1999 11:07 pm

In Reply to: Would you mind posting their response here when/if it comes. Thanks n/m posted by nomoneynocar on July 11, 1999 at 03:43:08:


I doubt I'll be able to provide a response because I do not see one coming, but if I do get one, I will post it. When one clicks on "e-mail" at the weiand.com site, their e-mail gets sent to Support@Holley.com which in turn dumps it right back on the sender by Postmaster@holley.com, unread and unseen. A test message resulted in the following bouncing back:

Postmaster@holley.com wrote:

>

> Your message

>

> Subject: test test

>

> was not delivered to:

>

> support@holley.com

>

> because:

>

> User support (support@holley.com) not listed in public Name & Address Book

>

> ---------------------------------------------------------------

> Reporting-MTA: dns;avenger.holley.com

>

> Final-Recipient: rfc822;support@holley.com

> Action: failed

> Status: 5.1.1

> Diagnostic-Code: X-Notes; User support (support@holley.com) not listed in public Name & Address Book

>

> ---------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Subject: test test

> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 17:20:21 +0800

> From: Steve Pilant

> To: support@holley.com

>

> test
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