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Re: Road Warrior Mack Truck

Postby MWFV8 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:14 am

Or they pinned the tarp to the trailer using crossbow bolts?

One theory I've heard is that the message is there purely to be symbolic and it represents the state of humanity. When Max takes the tractor unit he effectively takes the Earth back from the vermin, this is supposedly why the door then gets ripped off during the final chase as they fight over the tanker.

For me I just feel it was a production decision that was more about emotionally affecting the audience than making sound sense. It seems to be an exposition device used quite frequently in apocalyptic movies, it means you can literally put the writing on the wall. Other examples include the message "The is pretty f**king nigh now" in 28 Days Later and "Your sh*t is our bread and butter." in Doomsday.
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Re: Road Warrior Mack Truck

Postby Shadow94 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:56 am

Oh I agree. When he took the truck, the sign read "THE VERMIN HAVE INHERITED THE-" nothing. The Vermin get nothing as Earth deserts them. I also find some ironic sense of redemption in that while the original owner of the truck died, his death brought eventual safety to others (the compound residents).
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Re: Road Warrior Mack Truck

Postby mahenoguy » Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:46 pm

I've always thought the truck was probably on it's way to the compound when attacked for a few reasons . 1# The fact that it is quite close to the compound when there seems to be little else out there .2# the compound had only recently been besieged ( The Gyro captain describes seeing Humungus arrive while he was camped watching the compound ( ie "Then this trash arrived " ) 3# as there is no water out there , the compound would have relied on trade to survive . 4#the fact that Humungus's gang all have fuel , so deep in the wasteland suggests they have been pillaging it from somewhere ( ie , trade customers leaving the compound )5# the fact that Pappagalo sent search parties out in search of "A rig big enough to haul the tanker " when there is nothing out there suggests he knew there was a truck somewhere near-by .6# how did Pappagalo get the tanker out there to begin with unless trucks were coming and going . 7# there seems to have been sort of truce at some point ( ie Humungus's speech "Once AGAIN you have made me unleash my dogs of war") 7#Unless they were trading , why would they need all that fuel , they could have refined enough to get to Paradise "2000 miles from here " and been gone before Humungus even arrived if escape was their only motivation .
I feel all these points suggest that things have hit an all time low for the compound by the time Max arrives . Maybe in better days they were a trading post and that's what the truck ( and Max for that matter ) were out there looking for .
Also the symbolism of the graffiti on the truck is interesting . I have even head the truck referred to as Planet Earth but I can't remember where . In MMBTD , Savannah say's that when Capt' Walker found The Crack in the Earth "He named it Planet Earth " . I think George Miller was big on things representing Earth and Humanity so I think you are quite possibly correct in it's symbolism .I mean why else would the word Earth be scrawled on the trucks door when the whole message would have fit on the tarp .
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Re: Road Warrior Mack Truck

Postby Taipan » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:16 pm

I think the sign on the truck is a massive forshadowing of the end of the movie. Earth = dirt. The Vermin have inherited a truckload of dirt.

Symbolically though, they have inherited the wastelands. The vermin chased after a tanker of black fuel and got dirt, which is exactly what the humanity did and they got wastelands in return.
One could say that the vermin are still attached to the old world, or rather the dependency on fuel that screwed everyone over. Max is living with them in that world, remember what Papagallo said to him "We haven't given up (...) but you're out there with the garbage". The compounders on the other hand see how destructive that energy source is and not only decide to leave the wastelands, but blow the whole compound up. I've always wondered why they would blow it up, it seems like a waste of perfectly good resources, but it makes more sense if you've read the original script for MM2. In it it says that Papagallo took a map leading to the compound and a bunch of books, one of they reads "Teach yourself solar energy". I guess their plan was never to stay in the wastelands, but rather get the hell outta dodge, break off any dependency on fuel and start anew someplace else. Blowing up the compound was the symbol of leaving the old world behind and moving forward, in the right direction this time. The vermin however were always after the fuel and parallel to humanity - they screwed themselves over cause of that. Or at least they were after the fuel up until the tanker crashed. I wondered why the last remaining guys didn't scavange any fuel they could find on the truck. After all, Max himself grabbed anything he could to get some fuel out of the wreck in the opening scenes.
Instead those guys were just standing there, looking and then they turned back. Maybe they had a moment of clarity, thinking that this fuel dependency literally drove them crazy. It doesn't exactly redeem them but at least it shows they got some common sense left.

just my 2 cents.

As for how the truck got there, it's pretty obvious that someone packed their stuff and drove into the wastelands. The back of the truck is full of household items, plates, refrigerator, sofa etc, so most likely it was a mobile home or the owner was moving to whatever other place he could find. Most likely he was chased down by the marauders, the side of the door had arrows in it and 2 in the driver's neck. Also a dead kangaroo (a pet kangaroo maybe? is that a thing in Australia?). Then the marauders took all the fuel, went through the trailer and wrote a message. It's most likely that it was Humungus' gang because they've arrived around the same time near the compound (the driver's body was bloated but not completely decomposed, so it wasn't that long since he got shot). Also, according to the early version of the script, the marauders killed a whole family not too far away from the Mack truck, so It's safe to say that they were the only gang roaming that general area at the time.
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Re: Road Warrior Mack Truck

Postby MWFV8 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:31 am

I think the idea of blowing the compound was partly a moral one, destroying it means the Marauders can't get fuel once the Compound Dwellers left, and also partly to raise the stakes as the chase continued, it places more importance on the tanker (remember, as the audience we don't know its full of dirt either at this point).

I hadn't made the Earth-Dirt connection before, that's a good observation.
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Re: Road Warrior Mack Truck

Postby kickherintheguts » Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:04 am

I don't think the marauders wanted to mess with a very Mad Max in the cab. Plus, they have to regroup to maraud against the convoy--they have to get their filthy hands on the juice!

Blowing up the compound could be a moral victory, it certainly was a perfect ruse to trick the marauders into chasing the tanker.

Which marauder was next in line after The Humungus?
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Re: Road Warrior Mack Truck

Postby themanw/oaname » Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:03 am

I have to admit: I never noticed 1/32 of the stuff you all have before I joined here; and all of it blows me away.

Who would have thought a car porn movie in a post apocalyptic setting was this thick with high concept (accidental or not) stuff?
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Re: Road Warrior Mack Truck

Postby Shadow94 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:19 am

I just realized something even more ironic. After Max takes the truck, the driver is still lying in front of the trailer. So, you could interpret the sign as saying "The Vermin Have Inherited The Corpse Of The Old World" in a literal sense. Confirming what Papagallo said to Max.
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Re: Road Warrior Mack Truck

Postby Taipan » Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:59 pm

"You're a maggot. You know that? You're living off the corpse of the old world"
Sounds about right.
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Re: Road Warrior Mack Truck

Postby MWFV8 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:34 am

kickherintheguts wrote:Which marauder was next in line after The Humungus?


That's the thing though isn't it? Without Humungus and Wez as leaders the Marauders are lost. That's why, at the end, they are shown so demoralised and impotent they don't even bother with Max and The Feral Kid. That's why the Toadie character is so important, he articulates just how much the Marauders worship and idolise Humungus, "The tanks are full o mighty one." etc... They are stray dogs who need an alpha male to form them into an effective pack.
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