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White line nightmare????

PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:26 pm
by roadwarriormfp
I can tell you the flinders highway is mostly straight and surrounded by nothing!
It would've been perfect for MM4 as its mostly deserted (rain has only just hit the area now after 4yrs).
Its also somewhere where people have disappeared on a regular basis... ... 6827907643

Grisly tales of terror punctuate wretched route’s gloomy past


IT is a lonely stretch of highway with wide open spaces, isolation and a dark history.

The 800km Flinders Highway between Townsville and Mount Isa, which becomes the Barkly Highway between Cloncurry and Mount Isa, could easily have been the inspiration for the 2005 horror film, Wolf Creek.

A number of missing persons cases and brutal murders have links to the highway, including the disappearance of hitchhiker Anthony “Tony” Jones in 1982.

There have been a number of high-profile, and brutal, slayings and mysterious disappearances since the 1970s.

Townsville Bulletin regional editor John Andersen travels the Flinders Highway frequently.

“It’s not somewhere I would pull up for a sleep in the back of my car,” he said.

One of the earliest cases was the murder of two Townsville sisters, Judith and Susan Mackay.

Judith, 7, and Susan, 5, left their home at Aitkenvale to go to school about 8am on August 26, 1970. But the girls never made it, with their bodies found in a dry creek bed at Antil Plains.

Arthur Stanley Brown was charged with their murders but was deemed unfit to stand trial due to dementia. He died in 2002.

Two years later, Robin Jeanne Hoinville-Bartram and Anita Cunningham left Melbourne on July 4, 1972, for a hitchhiking holiday to Bowen.

On November 15, Ms Hoinville-Bartram’s remains were located in Sensible Creek, under a bridge on the Flinders Highway, 80 kilometreskm west of Charters Towers.

She had had beenhad been shot twice in the head bywith a .22 calibre rifle. There has been no trace of Ms Cunningham.

On July 30, 1975, Catherine Pamela Graham was reported missing. Her body was found at Oak Valley on August 1.

She had been repeatedly bashed about the head with a heavystone.

Crimes and vanishings went relatively quiet for 30 years, until an opal miner disappeared in late2005.

Paul Laba, 69, was last seen at his mining lease campsite at Woodstock with his car located in remote bushland.

He has never been heard from, or seen, since.

The disappearance of Van Edward Caulton was recently the subject of a coronial inquest, with Coroner Jane Bentley handing down her findings this week.

Mr Caulton, 60, was last seen in Charters Towers in March 2006, with Ms Bentley finding he most likely died between March 22, 2006, and July 31, 2006.

“There are only two reasonable possibilities in relation to the circumstances surrounding Mr Caulton’s disappearance – firstly, that he died from natural causes and Mr (Peter) Westlund failed to report his death and disposed of his body in order to obtain the carer’s pension and Mr Caulton’s pension or, secondly, that Mr Westlund caused the death of Mr Caulton and then disposed of his body, with the same motivation.”

Mr Caulton’s body has never been found and Ms Priestly did not make a determination about how he died.

Meanwhile, Bronwyn Howard, 51, was last seen in Cloncurry in early April 2012.

Ms Howard, described as an itinerant, regularly travelled to Mount Isa and Townsville, and Tennant Creek in the Northern Territory.

Police say she often travelled on foot and has not been seen since.

Flinders Shire mayor Greg Jones said the highway’s unfortunate history was well known.

“It is the only road that runs east to west, and it is very isolated,” Cr Jones said.

“Thirty years ago everybody hitchhiked but they wouldn’t be game these days. It is easy to vanish in the Outback and these are just the ones we know about.” it. There could be more

If you have any information that could assist police investigating the Tony Jones case, or any other case, please call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

Re: White line nightmare????

PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:28 pm
by Anklecranker
Glock 45

Re: White line nightmare????

PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:19 pm
by biolumen
Interesting. Living on a relatively small island, I find the idea of hundreds of miles of vast nothingness kinda enticing. I imagine I'd tire of it quickly, though. Maybe. Maybe not.

As for not filming there, Miller has stated before why no other location other than Broken Hill suited him, primarily because no remote location was close enough to a city that could comfortably support a crew of over 500 for several months. Basically he's saying it was a logistics issue, and Flinders Hwy doesn't seem to have anything the size of Broken Hill on it's path. The other reason given was that Warner Bros gave him an ultimatum to start filming in 2012 or forget it, and nobody could guarantee dry weather for South Australia or Qld. The only sure thing was a true desert. Hence the Namib.

Also, even if they had filmed up in Queensland, Miller would not have gotten the vegetation-free desolation he got from Namibia. I get the impression that this is the look he really wanted. Otherwise, why go through the trouble of hiding every tree and shrub behind manmade rock walls.

Re: White line nightmare????

PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:45 pm
by NuffTorque
Biolumen, I used to live on several small islands and the wide open spaces were enticing when deciding to move on.
When I first got out here it was overwhelming and interesting.
Now after a year, you are right, it wears thin...
Long distances, hot and you cant drive at night due to all the roos.

And you have to love the continuing over dramatic media stories. I read Mr Caultons findings several days ago, the fact that he lived near the highway was not a consideration. Its more dangerous to have relatives it seems.

Re: White line nightmare????

PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:02 pm
by roadwarriormfp
Central Qld has been in drought for several years now, rains are just falling.

Having seen this area by air at low level I can assure you that in drought there is little to no vegetation.


This is just 60min drive from Mt Isa. A town where it could easy support 500crew... there are also other towns nearby where crews could be put up.

Even north of Longreach there are areas of vast nothingness.... The road from Charters Towers to Winton (driven along it as well as flown over it), has areas of no vegetation with no grass, let alone trees.

Given that Longreach is just a 1.5hr flight from Brisbane.... and Mt Isa is a 1.5hr flight from Townsville (not to mention all the surrounding mine sites have large bitumen runways being served by jet airliners (Fokker 100s, 737s etc) moving crew in and out wouldn't be an issue at all.

I think Broken Hill was simply chosen because of its movie history (plenty of other movies made in the area) and that MM2 was filmed there as well, maybe Miller was feeling a little nostalgic?

Re: White line nightmare????

PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:43 pm
by biolumen
NuffTorque, interesting perspective. I'd probably feel the same way. I get rock fever sometimes, but most other times I'm perfectly happy with where I live. Qld does look like a nice place to spend some time, though.

roadwarriormfp, that's fairly barren looking scenery, and would no doubt work for a MM movie. With such an inviting landscape, all I can say is that Miller must've had some good reasons for taking it to Namibia. I hope at some point he clearly makes his case.

Re: White line nightmare????

PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:36 pm
by roadwarriormfp
Commonly known as GAFA.... great Australian fuck all

This picture is the abandoned homestead on the same property as the picture I posted above.

Below is the Charters Towers to Winton road. approx. halfway. It was mostly narrow single lane road 10yrs ago ,not too sure what its like now. 600km of mostly straight road.
Its all flat and barely a tree to see

Re: White line nightmare????

PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:33 pm
by NuffTorque
yep thats what it still looks like out here. Flew home last week and there is definate line at Barcaldine where the green stops and its just brown dust out here.

I have done a lot of km in this area and everywhere I look, I see great places for scenes from any MM movie.

Interesting though, the PM has flown in today to visit a property out here due to the drought and its raining... go figure.