Miller says "no Mel".

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Miller says "no Mel".

Postby Chase Bansi » Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:18 pm

Oh there's an intelligent retort. That's what I get for engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.
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Miller says "no Mel".

Postby MFP559 » Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:30 pm

Quote: Originally posted by SCREWLOOSE on 06 November 2006






Aye I think he might get the jacket and boots on for one final fling in Tomorowmorrow land!!



An interesting point of fact is that the good doctor still has all the old leathers in his garage! My missus used to clean a house for a cousin of Miller's and with me being such a fan, it came up in discussion one day.
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Miller says "no Mel".

Postby Justice » Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:09 pm



The following will only make sense if you have read the script.. Then you'll know which part I am referring to. So read it first before reading these points as they might twist the way you read the script![/font]


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- Max will not kill someone just for his wheels, he needs a reason. He might be out there with the scavengers, but he still has a sense of Justice. He was a MFP officer, and is definitely not out there with the trash.[/font][/font]


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- Max will not say he was a bronze due to the fact cops are never popular. Most of the real bad people out there have grudges.[/font][/font]


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- Arrow in the leg huh? Considering every movie had a token leg wound (Goose broke his, Max got shot, Papagallo got an arrow, and that Pigsh*t guy an even bigger one. I'd say this is indeed a must have.[/font][/font]


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- Threshold moment? Please... Incorporate the past movies; copying them is not a good thing...[/font][/font]


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- The religious part is a little iffy. "There is no God" I doubt a lot of extremely religious people are going to see Mad Max 4, but anything like that would piss off even a moderately religious person.[/font][/font]


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- Ones word in a world like this means nothing, especially from such a weak person. They would say anything to keep out of harms way.[/font][/font]


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- Fat Max? Please... Mel will not come back looking like a whale... Miller won't let him do that...[/font][/font]


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- Lighter? Burn? Another token Mad Max moment copied.[/font][/font]


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- And I saw this coming... you brought him back... The copied moments from Mad Max one are explained with this fact. Still, using that many winks to the original is not a good thing.[/font][/font]


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- Light me... yeah... see above comment.[/font][/font]


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Conclusion: It was an interesting read, but I wonder if this would fit in the continuation of the story. Also I'd like to point out that a police interceptor is hardly an arena fighting vehicle. I'd rather have a big 4x4 with lots of weight behind it. That's what sane people would use anyway. I do agree the BoB deserves a place into the next mad max, but it has to fit in. This comes over as a bit too forced to me. Same goes with the MFP garments. Like I said before, criminal people don't like cops. Even if a cop turns evil, and ends up in jail, once word comes out he/she was a cop, they're toast.[/font]


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Johnny the Boy was a follower, and could never be a leader. Or, let me rephrase that... It would be highly unlikely for him to become one. This essentially means the same thing.[/font]


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This William guy seems like a scaredy cat to me, yet in the end he does something incredibly cool. When I read that part I went: "Okay, I'd expect him to burn, not to catch and take one of the cars out,"[/font]


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But the script played in my head, so imho you can write. It's just not the kind of thing I would like to see on the big screen. No hard feelings.[/font]
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Miller says "no Mel".

Postby zanetti » Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:54 pm

I think it fair that you post a review of the last Max movie, "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome".
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Postby Justice » Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:43 am



I choose to ignore that part as it suffers from the "movie that should have never happened" syndrome. They limited max's potential. It was entertaining to watch, but that was it.


You want more examples? Robocop 3. Alien Resurrection, Star Wars 1 - 3*. Not to say they weren't interesting to watch, they just don't have it anymore. Once R rated movies loose the R in their sequels they are usually crap. Toned down to make it accessible for a broader audience. To make more money, to give kids the power to whine for Aliens and Robocop toys. Because if they couldn't see it in theaters, they wouldn't ask for it.


I understand why it's done today. It's done because people don't know how to make a good movie for a couple of million. And because movies cost around 100 million, the tickets sold at the box office don't generate profits. The people financing those movies want merchandising to cover their backs.


But does this mean Max 4 is doomed? Not if Miller puts in the effort to make a movie that is geared towards us instead of teens and pre-teens... But he has to comfirm by the rules of the people financing the movie. And if there is a lot of money involved, he will have to comply by their wishes. And I fear...


*The "original Star Wars trilogy" wasn't R rated, but they never had a character like Jar Jar Binks in them... Jar Jar was purposefully created to appeal to the little kids, get them into Star Wars.
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Postby zanetti » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:25 pm

I found your review of "Arena" excessively negative and repetitive, negative, and repetitive...
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Postby Foxtrot X-Ray » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:05 pm

Quote: Originally posted by zanetti on 09 January 2007


I found your review of "Arena" excessively negative and repetitive, negative, and repetitive...








And extraordinarily accurate.
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Postby Foxtrot X-Ray » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:34 pm

Pot, Meet kettle?





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Postby Justice » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:22 am



@ zanetti: Please, it is not my intention to bash. This is purely my vision on your script, you can choose to agree or dissagree with my opinion. I have nothing against you.


@Foxtrot X-ray: Thanks! It does me good my opinion on the script is shared with somebody else.
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Postby Chase Bansi » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:18 am

Justice,


You can trust that you are in the majority. It has been posted repetitively and your review is far kinder than what many of us have had to say.
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