The future of revamped Mad Max movies.

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Re: The future of revamped Mad Max movies.

Postby Turbofurball » Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:53 am

MWFV8 wrote:It is now a fantasy franchise that has more in common with the average comic-book movie than it does with the films it stemmed from.
As opposed to all the characters, environments, and vehicles in previous MM movies which weren't cartoonish at all? Really?

FR moved the goalposts, it explained why there was this tiny area where things weren't in short supply but then brought in other factors to consider (the use of people as a resource, religious zealotism, greed of the powerful, etc) ... who really wants to see every film tackling the same theme over and over?

Also, there's plenty of world away from The Citadel, Gas Town, and the Bullet Farm where people are only just surviving - we got to see them in FR - so what would be stopping future films from exploring that side of the world again?

In my opinion, the ability to create new and interesting stories from the world of Mad Max is the only way that further films will be made at all. The Road Warrior has been made already, it's time to move on.
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Re: The future of revamped Mad Max movies.

Postby Trundlefish » Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:34 am

Turbofurball wrote:
MWFV8 wrote:
... who really wants to see every film tackling the same theme over and over?

In my opinion, the ability to create new and interesting stories from the world of Mad Max is the only way that further films will be made at all. The Road Warrior has been made already, it's time to move on.


Well said and I'm of the same thinking. Too much of repeating the same scenario time after time will only dilute what makes the Mad Max stories interesting.
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Re: The future of revamped Mad Max movies.

Postby MWFV8 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:57 am

But Fury Road is just a big repeat of The Road Warrior, with less story, the protagonist completely lost, and a comic book universe painted over the top of it all.

Nothing new is being explored. Nothing new is being said.

Everything that's been shoehorned into the world has blatantly been done simply to justify what they wanted to do with the plot. They wanted gunplay so they created the bullet farm. They wanted dozens of vehicles so they created Gas Town. They wanted more half naked women so they dreamt up the five-wives.

Anyone can take the early Mad Max movies and ad-lib new versions. We saw that with bad rip-offs and it's one of the more painful things to watch with the fandom. It's easy to go bigger, it's harder to go smaller.

What holds it all together and makes it entertaining is all down to the crew who built the vehicles and the stunt team.
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Re: The future of revamped Mad Max movies.

Postby madmadmax » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:51 am

MWFV8 wrote:Bravo.

This is the crux of what I've been complaining about for the past few years.

Fury Road is a lot of fun, with great costumes, amazing cars, and well executed stunts, but it isn't built on anything that resounds and distances itself from reality. It is now a fantasy franchise that has more in common with the average comic-book movie than it does with the films it stemmed from.

There's no undoing this either. The crowds want more mania and more ad-libbing to go along with their head-canon. They don't see it, but there are just as blindly devoted as the War Boys they love to quote.


See, I took it a bit differently. I see it as how culture has evolved to a strange place long after the events of the apocalyptic event. It stands to reason that the further society gets from the apocalyptic event, more strange and alien it will appear to the "civilized" pre-apocalyptic period. In that context, Fury Road made perfect sense to me...
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Re: The future of revamped Mad Max movies.

Postby Turbofurball » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:55 am

MWFV8 wrote:But Fury Road is just a big repeat of The Road Warrior, with less story, the protagonist completely lost, and a comic book universe painted over the top of it all.

It might be possible to argue that Fury Road is the mirror of Road Warrior, because rather than escaping and fooling the baddies the heroes manage to fight, win, and return home (and Max progresses as a character rather than finishing the same as he started out), but it's pretty hard to argue that it's the same as far as I can see.

If you write the plot as a sequence of events, there isn't as much going on in FR. There's a vastly greater amount of character development though, which is nice as MM2's characters didn't seem to change a huge amount (apart from the Gyro Captain).

The protagonist isn't lost, she was one of the driving forces behind the film's long-term success and brought in many new fans.

As for "comic book universe", there are so many comic-book style moments in MM2 that it's hard to see what isn't. So much humour, action based on unrealistic events (the Pink car explodes on contact with fire, Max survives the big BoB crash, 'shoot the tyres', etc etc), and lots of cool one-liners.
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