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Re: Furiosa's plan for the Canyon

PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:36 am
by MWFV8
KamicrazyWarGal wrote:
MWFV8 wrote:Don't see why the wives wouldn't be capable?


Trucks are hard to drive!


So by default a male character (Ace) would be able to drive one while none of the five wives possibly could?

I do see where you are coming from, but be careful with assumptions like this.

Keep in mind Ace tries to kill Furiousa the second he's told she's turned on them. So she would have had to hold him hostage and at gunpoint to drive. Which I'm not sure any true War Boy would do and instead chose a bullet through the head.

Stuff like this is contrived. That's how movies are written. Execs want X,Y, and Z to happen, so it happens, even when it makes little sense.

Re: Furiosa's plan for the Canyon

PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:24 am
by KamicrazyWarGal
MWFV8 wrote:
KamicrazyWarGal wrote:
MWFV8 wrote:Don't see why the wives wouldn't be capable?


Trucks are hard to drive!


So by default a male character (Ace) would be able to drive one while none of the five wives possibly could?

I do see where you are coming from, but be careful with assumptions like this.

Keep in mind Ace tries to kill Furiousa the second he's told she's turned on them. So she would have had to hold him hostage and at gunpoint to drive. Which I'm not sure any true War Boy would do and instead chose a bullet through the head.

Stuff like this is contrived. That's how movies are written. Execs want X,Y, and Z to happen, so it happens, even when it makes little sense.


Shoot I just meant because he's like a War Boy and probably knows how x_x* (On a side-note, considering his role as a "yabber" to keep the driver aware of whats going on in the blind spots and directly discuss orders, a person in this position would likely be trained to take over driving the rig in case the driver is hurt.)

In response to the other thing you said, that's a good point, but it looked like he turned on Furiosa so aggressively because she betrayed his trust - if the escape had gone more smoothly he might of been more open to joining her plan! After a day like that, I wouldn't be in the mood to give up my spot in Joe's passenger seat on the highways of VALHALLA!

Re: Furiosa's plan for the Canyon

PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:08 am
by MWFV8
KamicrazyWarGal wrote:Shoot I just meant because he's like a War Boy and probably knows how x_x* (On a side-note, considering his role as a "yabber" to keep the driver aware of whats going on in the blind spots and directly discuss orders, a person in this position would likely be trained to take over driving the rig in case the driver is hurt.)


I get where you are coming from. I do agree it would be statistically more likely for a War Boy to know how to drive the War Rig. Just as Nux knows how to during the bog scene while none of the Five Wives take the wheel. I also see the point about leaving it running potentially looking suspicious when she's trying to put them at ease about completing the deal.

Re: Furiosa's plan for the Canyon

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:18 am
by levcore
I doubt any of the wives would have just known how to drive the rig, based on how they are presented to us in the movie, they have lived a VERY sheltered life and you can't just drive something by being told how, you would need to practice. No way would any of those wives have chance to practice on that thing.

Re: Furiosa's plan for the Canyon

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 5:07 am
by AquaCola
Toast knows how to drive. When Furiosa kills Immortan Joe she takes the wheel and knows how to use the accelerator. She also has a knowledge of guns and ammo. I get the idea that the wives weren't that confined since they even have knowledge of the GasTown boys cars, weaponry and leader.

MWFV8 wrote:3000 gallons of guzoline.

She had agreed there would be a few pursing vehicles if any at all. They would have been sitting ducks in the canyon and, unless she'd manage to continue her ruse that it was all part of her confidential orders, I doubt they would have dared follow the War Rig in.

Plus, she could probably have taken her crew by surprise by taking out her second in command as he came down for orders and using the war rig to take out the other vehicles.

Another option would have been for her to stop, have her crew all dismount for an update, and try to convince them of a new plan, with the five wives standing by armed in secret ready to take them out if they didn't buy into it.

Or the War Rig itself, with all it's hidden weapons and such, may have had various booby traps installed to take out marauders who managed to get onto it.

As she clearly states. She got unlucky.


Opps, I left out a 0 by accident. 300 would have been a terrible offer for the amount of work they had to do.

That wouldn't make sense though. Taking out 2 cars, 2 bikes and 10? war boys. Not a chance she could do that on her own. She either planned to race ahead of her escort or have them wait outside. They were so blindly loyal that I'd go with the second part.

The five wives wouldn't kill anyone on her command. They refused to let Furiousa kill Nux because he was an "unnecessary kill", Splendid was adamant on their agreement.

The "unlucky" part was the 3 war parties following her. Luck would have noting to do with that part of coming in alone.

Re: Furiosa's plan for the Canyon

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 5:41 am
by MWFV8
AquaCola wrote:Toast knows how to drive. When Furiosa kills Immortan Joe she takes the wheel and knows how to use the accelerator. She also has a knowledge of guns and ammo. I get the idea that the wives weren't that confined since they even have knowledge of the GasTown boys cars, weaponry and leader.

MWFV8 wrote:3000 gallons of guzoline.

She had agreed there would be a few pursing vehicles if any at all. They would have been sitting ducks in the canyon and, unless she'd manage to continue her ruse that it was all part of her confidential orders, I doubt they would have dared follow the War Rig in.

Plus, she could probably have taken her crew by surprise by taking out her second in command as he came down for orders and using the war rig to take out the other vehicles.

Another option would have been for her to stop, have her crew all dismount for an update, and try to convince them of a new plan, with the five wives standing by armed in secret ready to take them out if they didn't buy into it.

Or the War Rig itself, with all it's hidden weapons and such, may have had various booby traps installed to take out marauders who managed to get onto it.

As she clearly states. She got unlucky.


Opps, I left out a 0 by accident. 300 would have been a terrible offer for the amount of work they had to do.

That wouldn't make sense though. Taking out 2 cars, 2 bikes and 10? war boys. Not a chance she could do that on her own. She either planned to race ahead of her escort or have them wait outside. They were so blindly loyal that I'd go with the second part.

The five wives wouldn't kill anyone on her command. They refused to let Furiousa kill Nux because he was an "unnecessary kill", Splendid was adamant on their agreement.

The "unlucky" part was the 3 war parties following her. Luck would have noting to do with that part of coming in alone.


Well we could speculate what constitutes an unnecessary kill in the mind of a movie character into eternity.

All we have is dialogue to go on. She states a few pursuing vehicles, if any, so she was assuming she'd be pursued in there, but obviously not by the three war parties.

Re: Furiosa's plan for the Canyon

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 5:55 am
by MWFV8
AquaCola wrote:Toast knows how to drive. When Furiosa kills Immortan Joe she takes the wheel and knows how to use the accelerator. She also has a knowledge of guns and ammo. I get the idea that the wives weren't that confined since they even have knowledge of the GasTown boys cars, weaponry and leader.


This is what I was thinking. One of the good things about the Five Wives in Fury Road is that they aren't complete damsels in distress. They don't need a guy to come along and show them how to use a gun or fight back.

Another argument would be that Furiosa would have originally planned to teach the Five Wives how to drive the War Rig incase she was killed.

But I'm happy to concede to the assumption they were too sheltered to know how to get it moving.

Re: Furiosa's plan for the Canyon

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:38 pm
by levcore
Thing is if we're guessing that the wives weren't confined what exactly did they do from day to day? Just wander around The Citadel for all the war boys to see? I mean Joe kept them locked up in a vault, the comic even enforces this idea. He was insanely protective over them, i really got the impression that they were his absolute prisoners and spent all of their time in the vault.

As for Toast learning to drive, lord knows. Miss Giddy or Furiosa could have taught her about reloading guns but to effectively drive you need to actually practice, rather than simply be told how and i really can't see of any opportunities Toast would have to practice driving. Of course she does indeed to some driving in the movie so who knows.